They never believe in Christ later. All of us have messed up motivations. Often, people who have sinful thoughts experience psychological distress. This fear is eating me up. Thus, each session with porn/masturbation is essentially functioning as a compulsion. One thing your story does illustrate is the impact of spiritual trauma on our thought life. The other thing to notice is specifically what it is that does grieve the Spirit. Intrusive thoughts (including the blasphemous kind) have four main characteristics. No I need to know whether Ive even recognised the holy Spirit, and if its not him then I can ignore more easily. John Piper is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. I think I lost some of my feelings. You have hit the nail on the head. Thank you. Will you make my motives pure? Going through a very hard time. I was stuck with a job I hated. God has already accepted you these feelings of false guilt are either A) a temptation from Satan to doubt your faith experience, or B) the obsessive thought patterns of religious OCD. Kind David and others had many times when they felt that God wasn't with them. Ill tuck it into the back of my mind and put out more info on it if I get any lightbulb moments! My dad loves bees. I got baptised a few years ago, but fell into issues, till I got saved in 2020 total overnight freedom from my alcohol dependency. I'm happy I searched this topic and found your article. Wed love to have you in our weekly Zoom session. Im now reeling from the aftermath of this. The human frame is language based, and (mental) verbal habits - as well as picture ones - are natural. And why do they go along with sounds? Don't give into peer pressure. I met a muslim person and always thought as long as people respect each others religions theres no problems. He encourages us to cast ALL of our cares upon Him. I have been struggling with intrusive thoughts after I feared the unpardonable sin for three months now. Also, read John 6:37, which says, All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. If you have come to Christ, he will "never" cast you out. They bring the whole gang: obsessions and compulsions, too! I hate this and pray and pray for God to open my eyes of my heart to all of His truth again. Thank you for the advise, I feel like maybe I can conqour these thoughts Im in Zimbabwe and into ministry but the thoughts kept creeping into my head to curse the name of God. over the next few weeks i was hearing voices again, i think its gonna take more thasn that if Jesus is willing to heal me of this. I know that I believe what the Bible says is true. We are, but He isnt. For day and night Your hand was heavy upon me; My vitality was turned into the drought of summer. Magical thinking connects a cause and effect that are completely unrelated. But we want to ignore them in the sense that we dont enter dialogue. I would feel fine for a while but once the said blasphemous thought passes, I'll go back to feeling guilty and scared again. The answer is pretty simple: If we blaspheme thoughts about God, then theres an equal chance of these sinful thoughts being rooted in actual unbelief and potential sinning as true faith and obedience. I started hallucinating again. Prayers and practical therapy is needed. No one can enter a strong mans house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. It's to do what the teachers of the law were in danger of doing. Trust in Him, not in self. We learn to coexist with the thoughts without fighting back against them, since arguing with our thoughts only gets us stuck in an unending cycle. I feel bad and I have OCD and continue to have Blasphemous thoughts but I am starting to think my blasphemous thoughts are from OCD. I also have sinned a lot, the worst part is i think I sinned willfully and deliberately, a LOT. Do not look for an overwhelming feeling of joy, just believe that God heard you. I am left in great doubt wondering if they are just my own thoughts or false. I had been doing much better then some of it started rearing its ugly head. hey,recently ive been having really really evil thoughts about Jesus which are sexual i feel shame explaining but i just need help,they include Jesus doing something to me that is sexual and a crime i think you get the idea and now that i have thought about jt its like its in my brain now and its labelled if you know what i mean(its the R word and i have so much shame and guilt i jusr need help i hate myself) its like it wont go thats now what i think of Jesus even though it definitely not i pray all the time asking for help and i read my Bible and they just come back ,im still young and ive never had a mental illness and im scared that these are my thoughts because its like i encourage them but i dont want to i dont want to label Jesus like that i Love him and hes my saviour im just scared im an evil person that doesnt deserve Gods love at all Thank you for the article aswell it was really helpful, Hey,God understands and loves you he will get you through this keep having faith and PRAY PRAY PRAY, Thank you so much I have been trying to find answers on why I have been having blasphemous thoughts in my head and when I found this article it gave me all the answers to my Question thank you so much, Hello jaimie, please help I accidentally blasphemed Jesus, so basically a blasphemous thought came into my head saying something really bad to Jesus and Holy Spirit and my family, so I try to ignore it and praise Jesus I know this sounds weird but the thought was the opposite of this I want Jesus to go to heaven I accidentally said the opposite (I think you may know what I accidentally said) (the blasphemous thought) I freaked out and asked for forgiveness will god forgive me? When this happens, there is nothing or no one who will move that person to repentance and without repentance there can be no forgiveness. We Just want to meditate on His word, allow the Holy Spirit to impart the word deep in our hearts that we may not forget and sin against God. Where do they fit into the discussion? when i have a bad thought i deal with god opposite of thought . The incidental evil thought or resentment towards God does not count in as blasphemy. I feel like Im overcoming many other intrusive thoughts ,thank god thank Christ ,but whenever I think of this particular situation I become so fearful and discouraged Again ,I pray my lord Jesus Christ can answer me and assure me and guide me . 30 Apr 2023 15:53:35 Don't force the belief because that can cause you to fight the belief inwardly. Hope you will be okay. Suzys therapist may choose to guide her through ERP in one of two ways: either a DIRECT or an INDIRECT exposure, followed by an intentional refusal to respond to the anxiety. You can pray like this: dear Lord, I think my motives are pretty messed up, but you knew that already. Followed it. I understand that numb feeling. I was always ashamed to cry in front of other people. Are intrusive thoughts sin? - GotQuestions.org At this moment, I am currently spiritually shut down because I feel like if I avoid the praying and the reading I can avoid the thoughts. They are not the same, and you can see the difference in Ephesians 4:2931, where Paul says, Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. Relax Ken. Was it really me? I am so desperate, I had those too. Verse 29. They are actions that you feel will cancel out the bad thought?, So lets see if we can go for five minutes without you blowing any air out and without verbalizing that Chemosh is Lordand next time we will try to go for ten minutes. I've felt so guilty and ashamed ever since it's been happening. I was lying there in bed when I started praying and it popped up so I decided to google it. She broke it off because of church and God, so I started going to her church hoping to win her back. because theysaid, He has an unclean spirit.. Chemosh is real., Do you know that Chemosh is real, or do you believe it?, I know it! I need to be free. Hang in there. I put it behind the bureau. This is a type of treatment that involves getting you to face your biggest fear head-on, either through real or imagined exposure. Thank you very much for replying. I cried my eyes out in his car. Manage Settings One more text, Luke 12:10: And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Over the span of my ministry there have been several people probably a lot more people dont come forward, but these came forward who came to me deeply convinced they had committed the sin against the Holy Spirit and were therefore beyond forgiveness. Blasphemous thoughts, unwanted though they may be, seem to carry a power strong enough to snatch us out of Gods hand even though Jesus declared there is nothing powerful enough to do that. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. It is the appropriate response given to a person that duly recognizes his or her status and role. But they are perceived to be meaningful, which makes them ever-so-uncomfortable. But there comes a problem? After that, he read about self-control, and he cut down to eating only a scanty amount of food each day a piece of fruit, a few nuts. What about the thought? But for some people, they can come with so much repetition and intensity that you might feel like you're going crazy. Blasphemous Thoughts and Unforgivable Sin: A Hell Of Fear The he Jesus is referring to is the Holy Spirit. Don't dwell on your past and don't worry about your future. I pray that some day I'll be able to helps others. Amen.it's just I can't get my mind off of it it's like my mind has become addicted to The fault it's like I purposely think them now out of habit the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that when the faults come or I also have intrusive speech that when it comes I don't feel happy afterwards I feel miserable but yet my body says I want them I don't know if you've ever fought intrusive speech meaning I will say my blasphemous thoughts under my breath but as in a compulsive manner of which I can't control I will try to cancel them out under my breath constantly want to say them out loud too it's a Non-Stop fight, Not only is my mind against God now but my feelings are against God and mostly the Holy Spirit although they're not mine but with the thoughts come feelings of enjoyment or that I want these thoughts when they're not there it's like I think them purposely just so they'll be there I guess I fought it for so long my mind is become addicted even feelings and then the thoughts come and obviously my depersonalization worsens afterwards and I have to hold on either I can sit or I can take an Ativan to help me it's a Non-Stop mental battle I hate feeling like I want a fault which increases them the more and makes new phrases every second come in my mind thoughts are one thing but feeling like you want them and trying to convince yourself you really don't when you feel so strongly you want them and you want them to be there mostly all against the Holy Spirit I've tried to do erp where I deliberately let it sit there and deliberately engage in the feelings of hatred that I feel and just let what come come..Don't know if you found any of that but I've been through this for years. And I accepted it for a while and it brought me more fear and I would avoid looking at almost anyone. These thoughts are from the enemy to try to separate me from God. I then became terrified about what I had wilfully done and have been living in torment and feeling condemned and far from God since and needless to say I have been tormented by repetitive blasphemous thoughts as well for years since. Then I thought in my mind "Alright the Holy Spirit is God", but after I thought "Alright" I just felt something in my gut telling me that I was thinking something bad. You can look at it as something scary or you can rest in that feeling and choose to relearn God. He never changes or goes back on His word. Now these thoughts werent any normal thoughts but they were thoughts that felt SO real. In normal scenarios, this is a good idea, but when we are in an obsessive-compulsive spike, intense religious experiences can really backfire. The way to deal with this is to not analyze the thought and treat it with indifference. That makes me worried. Interesting that I was already quickened to the Ps 23 "Table in the presence of my enemies." But guess what? Your experience sounds quite familiar, and I know what you mean about feeling better to just get it out in the open. God has given me in site through His Word but still having difficulty. Sarcasm deals in opposites to get a point across. People with OCD often have an untrustworthy picture of God and this fuels their need to meticulously control their environment and thought life. Now I understand the condition, not my thoughts intrusive thoughts. and what worries me is because this thought was almost similar to that passage of the Pharisees and the unpardonable sin, Im in a similar boat I think I probably lost my salvation when I thought something on purpose to try to make it less scary. Jesus says in the Bible that no one can snatch us from His hand and that The One who has started a good work in us will finish it until the day of Christ Jesus. But youre making progress if youre able to listen to that thought urging you to deny God and say, well, Im pretty sure that Im on a good track to be a faithful believer till the day I die, but theres no way of knowing 100% that I wont deny God at some point in the future. He wants you to be free, just as much as he wants healing for broken legs, cancer, and depression. For example, you may believe that thinking about the color yellow will make something bad happen. I bounced around different websites and religions online. 2. Blasphemous Thoughts: The Ultimate Guide (Updated 2020) - Scrupulosity.com I still have these thoughts. Ever since then I have struggled against these horrible blasphemous thoughts. To whom was He talking? Just remember you can KNOW you have eternal life if you believe in Jesus, trust in Him and rest knowing that He has everything in His hands no matter what. Is there a difference if we start to say the blasphemous thought out loud and then catch ourselves? 12:10 Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit - Geoff Thomas Sermon Archive I often feel like I've lost eternity; that it was never even meant for me, but I still want to win souls for Christ, not wanting to make others like me but this act still does not fill the void I feel when I think that I'm eternally separated from the oppurtunity of having God has my father. Many Blessings and Healing to you in Jesus name. You ask the question about how you can be sure the thoughts arent from you. I was finally out of my room and able to get out again. Their parent (God) was responsible, not them. Thus the official stand of the Catholic Church's, following Augustine and a whole host of subsequent moral theologians, is that the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is final impenitence. That your OCD fears are strong enough to actually change reality? Be careful. As I find verses or ideas that may be helpful, Ill publish about them here on my blog. Your intrusive thoughts produce similar feelings of danger and powerlessness. Hi there. It was a letter from King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia. I don't know why, suppose i have thought about that if i eat this i can wrong or (sexual thought ) with god then i pray and said that if i not eat then it is happen but some time its can be hard for me when i not fulfill the deal with god and i afraid that god will punish because i said or deal with god, i am in very trobule plesae help i love god. So yes, in a way, the fact that youre second guessing yourself is normal, for OCD. Honey, God allows U-Turns, He really does. I know this too shall pass and I will be stronger than ever! I was amazed when you wrote about the twitches and groans. I never saw her again. NOW AGE 65 HAVE GONE TO MANY COUNSELORS AND IN FEAR OF DEMON POSSESSIONS. They only feel that way. The Unpardonable Sin | Biblical Counseling Blog by Ed Welch He hears your cries for help, and already has an immense rescue team working on your behalf. Convictions, awareness. Now the thoughts still come, but i fell numb, like I lost the presence of God and I expect the bad feeling to come or anything at all, but it's just a big nothing. And recently i had series of dreams of death Thus making me so afraid. You are precious to our Lord and savior. I said one of his prayers out loud and it helped. It's a shame all the prophetic words spoken over me won't happen. I have blasphemy thoughts the whole time including the f word- I dont want them! 1 Corinthians 6 gives a list of sinful behaviors that will not be found in the kingdom of God, but notice how the Apostle Paul shifts the conversation at the end to show how forgiveness works. There are things we might be wrong about. We may feel estranged from God and cast upon the rocks of despair. The more you suppress the thoughts the more they'll fight against you. I need total deliverance from what is happening. You must choose to blaspheme, slander, and reject the work of the Holy Spirit. Will this kinds of din be forgiven. You have given me hope. I'm confused too. did you really seek the Lord about this illness whatever it is cus I fear so many have demons telling them things of God and it isn't I want to receive this but fear what IF what if we truly who deal with this aren't God's Children I want to be absolutely want to make sure but glad I'm not alone many others deal with this why are we facing this I've cried out over 20 yrs for freedom healing felt God is mad at me and I won't be healed, That also happens to me too. It terrified me so that I felt I was never able to truly relax in His love on a regular basis. When you feel hopeless, remind yourself that God has cleansed you from ALLLLLLLLLLLL unrighteousness. Is blasphemy of the Spirit the same as grieving the Spirit? Nice job, Keep it up! He told me : "Your thoughts will never separate Me from you". I asked God to heal my mind, change my thinking and I have finally grasped what it means to lay all of this at the feet of Jesus. I didn't see anything in my life as sin.i prayed to satan for something and offered him my soul. This type of blasphemous thought may apply to you if: But these scary thoughts against God probably dont apply to you if: If you find yourself having scary, unwanted blasphemous thoughts against God that are not caused by spiritual conviction and are not caused by a new relationship of authenticity with God, theres one more possible cause. The passages that give the background story are in Matthew 12:22-32 and Mark 3:20-30. Hes the boss even over those who dont believe in Him. Hi Jaimie. What is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? | GotQuestions.org God is your life. Being able to say a fancy, perfect prayer or affirmation of faith is not the point. They were raw. And probably the easier thing to do was just to say it and by "losing" you had relief. Im so glad you found it useful, but so sorry to hear of the continual struggle. Connections give us a feeling of safety, so we are very hesitant to do anything against the norm that may endanger our social belongingness. And so he perished. Its like the minute I understand that sin, my obsession takes hold of it and I get bombarded by awful, unwanted blasphemous thoughts. My friend has tourettes and I was telling him about blasphemy, and he started saying the word uncontrollably but not horribly, and eventually started combining the word blasphemy with other profane swear words. They have seriously disrupted my life for years. Thank God for this article, it has been a great help for me. I need encouragement. Going back to the concept of ego-syntonic versus ego-dystonic thoughts, one of the biggest stressors for someone suffering from blasphemous thoughts is trying to figure out whether we really intended to think that thought or not. I wish we could meetI actually have a really full schedule these days. Generally, there are three main disorders that can cause intrusive thoughts: Within the broader context of psychotherapy, intrusive thoughts are typically treated with Exposure and Response Prevention Therapy (ERP). What can I do? Now when Herod saw Jesus,he was exceedingly glad; for he had desired for a longtimeto see Him, becausehe had heard many things about Him, and he hoped to see some miracle done by Him. When you are fully sold to the idea that you are the god of your own life and you no longer have respect for Gods authority, you sink into an experience of blatant disregard and sin. We all who struggle with this are in a battle. I recently came under attack and for a second, its like I actually thought one. This battle is not yours its His. I went in due to paranoia and was paranoid when I came out. God is your Heavenly Father, Friend, & Counselor. I'll typically catch myself on the first or second letter of the first word of the phrase, but I'm not sure if I have to handle this differently. Hold on to these truths and they will help you. Most people never saw it like this, neither did I but when Jesus was in the wilderness fasting for 40 days/nights the devil tempted Him. At one point in my life I did say something really negative towards Jesus (which I regret now).. these thoughts have subsided lately but from time to time they pop up and keep going. As for step two, I would like to point your attention to the words you are using. This cookie is used to know which optin form the visitor has filled out when subscribing a newsletter. How do we deal with these biological tendencies? Whenever I learn something new my mind would just start to attack that person when I didn't want to. Selah I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I have not hidden. In general, the word blasphemy according to Merriam-Webster means "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God." Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is when you take the true work of the Holy Spirit and you speak evil of it, attributing his work to the devil. Hi, Rod, I have a video about why we sometimes feel that we have given in to blasphemous thoughts. Disconnecting may be your bodys way of gaining a temporary sense of relief after you have depleted your stores of stress chemicals. Please forgive me and help me find a better way of dealing with it in the future.. Any suggestions ? It feels like I am constantly walking on a thin rope. The Father draws them by the work of the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately I dont know any mental health providers in New York that specialize in scrupulosity, although Im sure there are some. Same I wish someone wrote a book about this bc reading the comments were all going through THE SAME THING AND FEELINGS! So dont worry about blaspheming, focus instead on building and growing your relationship with Christ as the Holy Spirit helps you to do that. There are a lot of reasons people might be motivated to seek God. The enemy always plots to destroy us, but God uses it for good. A lot of us came to know God/Jesus from a religious background that made God look more like a Judge who is ready to sentence you to eternal damnation instead of the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Prince of Peace, and Everlasting Father the Bible says He is, Isaiah 9:6. I have religious OCD (Scrupulosity) I have obsessions concerning: my salvation and Hell. As you walk with God, you're going to fall over and over again, but keep getting back up and walk with Him one day at a time. Hi, Thank you for this article. Hi Jaimie, Ive been on an up and down roller coaster with this OCD issue for I want to say 4 years or so. All those swarming insects gave me the heebie-jeebies! However, after I found so much peace for so long and finally found my most loving self I feel like God is constantly condemning me for listening to Wayne Dyer. But none of this matters to Jesus. No one knows your heart except God. Growing up on Catholic school (elementary school until high school), we learn to believe in God and his kindness. I needed to hear this so bad! It is very very uncomfortable, but not to the point of causing anxiety attack(the worst anxiety attack was betting with the devil and sold my soul to the devil). He loved the world so much, he couldnt stop loving the world. You said that Christianity doesnt have the 100 percent truth. It comes from the word scruples a strong moral or ethical reservation. Most people in the world have no experience of lasting joy in their lives. We are here for you. I have been dealing with OCD for about 20 years. 4. However, the EXTENT to which you are experiencing this fear is predominantly an OCD thing, not a faith thing. In church, I experience a feeling of being different and that I dont. I found it hard to be at peace with God or with anyone else when these thoughts would enter my mind. And I dont agree with these thoughts and i dont want to accept they are my thoughts, but I feel like they really come from me since it seems to come from my negative thinking but not sure, it led to me confessing every time, but as of now, I feel when these things come out or if I happen to remember did I confess it, I start to remover the stuff again, and I feel my Holy Spirit get bothered. I definitely saved this site for future reads! He will not deny or blaspheme his own work and since he lives in you he will keep you from doing the same. As I started doing that, I think I opened myself up to a spirit. Thanks for being interested in helping others who struggle. I won't repeat some of the things I said. I primarily have the blasphemous thoughts and one other issue. The key here is realizing that this feeling will NEVER COME. What is your picture of yourself like? When we are tempted to speak evil words, remember that Jesus was also tempted. I myself have prayed. Gods blessings, Jaimie. I am starting to believe more on the forgiveness of my sins, so thank you. Eventually, it listened and I'm out of that groove now, and know when to take "phrases and sayings" or associations / connotations with a dose of good humour. But they didnt want to believe, and they willfully searched for excuses. People with OCD seem to have a predisposition to these kinds of repetitive, anxious thought cycles. Hi Andrew, OCD is indeed very difficult. Which is a huge compliment when Im feeling defeated. Dear Jamie, I have suffered terribly with scrupulosity and religious OCD for all my life and I made a promise to God about masturbation when I was about 12 years old. So lets imagine, then, that you arent being purposeful or willful in committing blasphemy. When I try to say something praiseworthy of God/Jesus, the sentence becomes mixed in with something else which will make it sound incredibly blasphemous. A common peasant would be out of line if he attempted to make a royal declaration. But the risk to her eternal welfare seems too great. Certainly!
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